their interview was taped the morning after nelson mandela's death. carlos santana has long supported the fight against aids in south africa. in 2003, he donated all of his tour proceeds-- $2 million-- to "artists for a new south africa." he began his support of that group in 1989 when its focus was to combat apartheid. >> we were talking just after nelson mandela has died. what are your thoughts or memories of him? >> a supreme warrior, you know. one that changed history. one that-- he made all humans believe that nothing is impossible. and that he and desmond tutu impregnated that in our consciousness to see clearly the victory is won already. >> victory is won already. >> victory is won already, you know. and the only enemy is fear. and he talked about that a lot. he transformed fear with your supreme joy, you know. to honor and celebrate desmond tutu's birthday in south africa in 2006. and we were in the presence of both of them. and it was really quite endearing to watch both of them pick on each other. you know, at that time desmond tutu would s